We desperately need to find out how to tell the firmware to allow users to leave the shutter open for longe peiods of time.
There's also the prude-issue whee SONY widens the apeture in NightShot/IR mode (intentionally) so as to overexpose the image sensor. They do this to keep people fom seeing a bit through clothing, etc. Film and other cameras can do this however. SONY are being jerks, as this also affects legit photographic endeavors.
Also is thee firmware to reduce the noise in the F828?
Sat Oct 23 03:55:30 PDT 2004
Couldn't the 828 be used in manual mode, where you can set the aperture and shutter speed manually? Can you get around the NightShot/IR issue in this manner?
Tue Oct 26 13:26:09 PDT 2004
You cannot get around the fixed aperature/speed in NightShot/IR on the DSC-F828. This is part of Sony's implementation of "protection" re the infamous "see through thin material" problem of a few years ago where very thin shirts sans brasiere gave a hint of nipple when using nightshot. However, in order to fully use the IR abilities for legitimate photography using appropriate IR filters, a firmware hack is needed. Any help would be appreciated.
Sat Nov 27 09:54:16 PST 2004
just buy 900-1100nm IR filter to get the X-ray effect :)
cost like 15-35 $
Sat Dec 18 21:34:18 PST 2004
Just reading the Sony Camera hacker forum.
I use the F828 and do a lot of IR landscape shooting (in nightshot mode with IR pass & ND filter).
I have also been searching for any info on a firmware hack to allow nightshot in manual mode (ie. faster shutter speed).
So far no luck in search. Has anyone else discovered anything yet ?
I would greatly appreciate any ideas.
Fri Jan 28 14:42:04 PST 2005
I would greatly appreciate also such a hack . I do legitimate IR photography and miss this feature
Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:57:20 -0700
Same here. If the restrictions on shooting Nightshot were to be removed, I would buy the F828 in a flash. As it is, I'm having a Canon Powershot G6 modified to replace the internal IR-cut filter with an 87 instead. Cheaper, plus I get to keep all the manual functions of the camera.
Thu, 29 Dec 2005 07:54:35 -0800
In pursuit of landscape photography using the aid of IR, I've come to the same conclusion as everybody else: Sony did us all in the brown. All of us, the Sony customers, the faithful belivers who chose Sony over the competition have bought a product that restricts us from using it however we want to. Great job, Sony!
Since nobody seems to be able to release a firmware hack to allow us to use the equipment we purcahsed, I ended up purchasing an IR filter for it - it's a HOYA IR Filter - Sony doesn't make one, but if Sony did, I wouldn't buy it. I love my Sony hardware in my home (from my plasma TV, to the surround sound, to the Sony laptop, the PS2, etc.) but when it comes to cameras and camera equipment, as much as I love Sony, we're divorced. I only get cheated on once - and Sony used their one life line by taking away a feature I have paid for.
Fri, 19 May 2006 16:24:40 -0700
There are too many people living their cushy lives that are far too happy to just "Ban it!" that to deal with it.
I'm not just talking about IR photography either...
If you don't like what Sony did to it's customers, because of NON-CUSTOMERS, then you need to let tham know how you feel about it, just like everyone else did a few years ago.
Stay silent and surely, so will your cameras' N/IR ability.
That's all I can say that, at least, might help you in the future.
Dissatisfied Sony Customer
Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:45:02 -0700
I have the Sony 828 and I can say on the paper is a good camera but with noise and IR restriction on manual mode... well, I wouldnt buy it again. No more Sony cameras for me.
Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:50:07 -0800
I just purchased an F828 on Ebay.
I read the specs on another site in a rush as the camera had just come up for bid and I'd been watching for a few days. Not there wern't any on Ebay just the bidding went higher than I was willing to go. This one showed up and I found it when the bidding was in the two hour or less stages and waited until the last 20 seconds and shot a bid off and won it.
Then I find the reason I bought it is crippled.
This is a severe security issue for me so I guess I'll either have attempt the hack, "I hate that" or find someone who has already done it.
Only other way to go is to just sell the damned thing on Ebay and spend bigger bucks for a camera that allows me to assume the redponsiblilty/libality of what I shoot with the camera.
The price/CCD array was a big factor in this purchase. The IR was too, until I found out too late that I errored.
If I find the code and successfully move/copy it to the manual mode code area without a crash I'll post again with info howto or maybe even send it to those who might want to post it.
Thu, 05 Apr 2007 01:49:00 -0700
I don't understand all these people complaining about the F828. It's a great camera with the nightshot, which you can use in daytime with IR filter + ND8 grey filter.
I bought this camera second hand as a starter in digital, and have very good results. In analog I used the last 25 years only Canon F1, AE1, Nikon F90, F100.
A good result also depends on who is using the camera. I'd buy it again, so robust as it is. Look at the picture I shot in IR
Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:22:37 -0700
so, anyone found a way to make nightshoot 828 work on manual set?
Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:47:25 +0000
Here is finally a Sony F828 / F717 IR manual hack in 2 seconds!
You have to use a small neodymium magnet.
http://www.schweinert.com/blog/files/960c1167c6adc1dea4862db . . .
Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:58:30 +0300
That's a very cool and easy hack. Who'd though a piece of magnet can move the IR cut filter out of the way. Thanks for sharing your success, Daniel.
Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:13:05 +0300
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